
sites to see what they were using. It would be interesting to look at the
frequency distributions
Wes Templeton, Wake Forest- it would be helpful to know what people are
giving and share with this group. We’re not giving a lot of aprepitant to 5 yr
olds so knowing globally what people are doing to potentially meet this
metric and what rescue’s they are using as well.
Nirav Shah, MPOG- It would be interesting to put this in the new QI reporting
tool to give us the flexibility to drill down on practice patterns across our
collaborative.
o Meridith Bailey, MPOG (via Chat) – Another thing we could do is apply/define a
specific duration dependent exposure to the volatile agents
Morgan Brown, Boston Children’s (via Chat)- Yes, I think the risk factor is
anesthesia with volatile >30 minutes
o RJ Ramamurthi, Stanford (via Chat) – Instead of calling two or more antiemetic
“medications” – suggest ‘modalities’, include ‘propofol’ and ‘acupuncture’
o James Xie, Stanford (via Chat)-
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4679372/ Stimulation of PC6 acupointe
has been shown to be as effective as zofran for prevention of PONV
o Bob Brustowicz, Boston Children’s – Are you considering Propofol infusion only as
‘pass’ or infusion vs bolus? End of the case?
Nirav Shah, MPOG- The way that we built the measure, propofol bolus
doesn’t count as an antiemetic. The quality committee decided previously
that given as an infusion counts as an antiemetic.
Bob Brustowicz, Boston Children’s - Some people give a large dose to
extubate deep, would that then count?
Nirav Shah, MPOG- That wasn’t included previously as an antiemetic.
Interested to hear what the group thinks?
Morgan Brown, Boston Children’s- I don’t know all the literature, but I don’t
think that there is data to support using it as an antiemetic and I think we
should be using literature to drive our measures
Nirav Shah, MPOG - that’s exactly wat we try to limit the markers for success
to what the literature says. Sometimes in MPOG we use expert consensus if
the literature isn’t absent or weak as well but in general our mode of
operation is using what has been published.
Meridith Bailey, MPOG- Going back to anesthesia duration, this algorithm
doesn’t mean that they were given a volatile the entire time. Do folks think
we should update this definition to 30 minutes of continuous volatile
anesthetic?